1 00:00:03,980 --> 00:00:19,670 [Music] 2 00:00:24,950 --> 00:00:22,630 what's up everybody happy tuesday 3 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:24,960 uh we have a pretty good 4 00:00:28,630 --> 00:00:27,840 day today we have congressional 5 00:00:29,910 --> 00:00:28,640 uh 6 00:00:31,349 --> 00:00:29,920 congressional some congressional 7 00:00:33,910 --> 00:00:31,359 briefings being 8 00:00:37,030 --> 00:00:33,920 uh done 9 00:00:38,709 --> 00:00:37,040 next week on tuesday and uh yours truly 10 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:38,719 in disclosure team 11 00:00:43,110 --> 00:00:40,800 uh we're going to 12 00:00:45,830 --> 00:00:43,120 live do a live play by play during the 13 00:00:50,069 --> 00:00:45,840 briefings and pretty sure we should be 14 00:00:52,150 --> 00:00:50,079 able to watch them as well because 15 00:00:54,150 --> 00:00:52,160 um you know 16 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:54,160 that stuff's public you know so they 17 00:00:56,869 --> 00:00:54,960 can't 18 00:00:59,029 --> 00:00:56,879 shut us down 19 00:01:00,790 --> 00:00:59,039 which is pretty cool so 20 00:01:04,390 --> 00:01:00,800 we're gonna do that 21 00:01:05,830 --> 00:01:04,400 talk a bunch of crap what's happening 22 00:01:07,030 --> 00:01:05,840 should be 23 00:01:09,030 --> 00:01:07,040 awesome 24 00:01:12,390 --> 00:01:09,040 um but yeah thanks everybody for being 25 00:01:14,070 --> 00:01:12,400 here and what is the beginning of 26 00:01:15,510 --> 00:01:14,080 something fantastic which is another 27 00:01:18,950 --> 00:01:15,520 beginning of 28 00:01:21,270 --> 00:01:18,960 people have been asking for briefings 29 00:01:22,710 --> 00:01:21,280 for a long time and although this isn't 30 00:01:25,990 --> 00:01:22,720 going to be 31 00:01:27,990 --> 00:01:26,000 you know the big uh shebang so to speak 32 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:28,000 it's a definite start and it's a great 33 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:29,200 start 34 00:01:32,230 --> 00:01:30,240 um 35 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:32,240 we have two uh important people being 36 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:33,520 put up 37 00:01:36,950 --> 00:01:35,439 um to 38 00:01:37,910 --> 00:01:36,960 you know give their testimony on this 39 00:01:39,749 --> 00:01:37,920 stuff 40 00:01:41,429 --> 00:01:39,759 and it's pretty awesome i put the 41 00:01:43,990 --> 00:01:41,439 amazing new york times article in the 42 00:01:45,749 --> 00:01:44,000 description that was written by mr ralph 43 00:01:49,270 --> 00:01:45,759 blumenthal and lizzy kane 44 00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:49,280 so you can check that out for yourself 45 00:01:55,190 --> 00:01:53,280 um so today we are celebrating a victory 46 00:01:57,270 --> 00:01:55,200 you know we didn't win the war but we 47 00:01:59,590 --> 00:01:57,280 won this battle and that is fantastic 48 00:02:01,510 --> 00:01:59,600 and it's because of each and every one 49 00:02:03,030 --> 00:02:01,520 of you who stay engaged in a positive 50 00:02:05,510 --> 00:02:03,040 way that makes something like this 51 00:02:08,070 --> 00:02:05,520 possible whether it be supporting a 52 00:02:09,430 --> 00:02:08,080 podcast like this or you know tweeting 53 00:02:12,309 --> 00:02:09,440 something 54 00:02:14,070 --> 00:02:12,319 um to a representative or whether you 55 00:02:16,390 --> 00:02:14,080 made a phone call to a representative or 56 00:02:18,229 --> 00:02:16,400 wrote a letter whatever it is all that 57 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:18,239 stuff really matters and people 58 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:20,000 obviously care about that and it goes 59 00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:22,319 somewhere because look at where we are 60 00:02:27,270 --> 00:02:24,720 now if it wasn't for that and if it 61 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:27,280 wasn't for people like lou elizondo 62 00:02:32,390 --> 00:02:30,560 sean cale other people um 63 00:02:35,430 --> 00:02:32,400 chris mellon and all that i don't know 64 00:02:37,110 --> 00:02:35,440 that we would be here right now you know 65 00:02:39,190 --> 00:02:37,120 um and 66 00:02:40,309 --> 00:02:39,200 case in point right there here we are 67 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:40,319 you know 68 00:02:45,110 --> 00:02:42,640 um and it's all too fitting that uh mr 69 00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:45,120 blumenthal and uh leslie kane wrote that 70 00:02:49,830 --> 00:02:46,400 article because 71 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:49,840 um it did all start 72 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:52,239 with that 73 00:03:00,790 --> 00:02:58,869 and although 74 00:03:02,710 --> 00:03:00,800 okay well here we go i'm going to bring 75 00:03:07,589 --> 00:03:02,720 up the 76 00:03:11,350 --> 00:03:09,430 i read it on my instagram earlier today 77 00:03:13,190 --> 00:03:11,360 that's how cool it was 78 00:03:15,030 --> 00:03:13,200 so 79 00:03:17,589 --> 00:03:15,040 i gotta get rid of this stuff because i 80 00:03:20,229 --> 00:03:17,599 don't pay but just so you know there is 81 00:03:23,589 --> 00:03:20,239 a special offer for new york times and 82 00:03:26,149 --> 00:03:23,599 you can subscribe for a dollar a week 83 00:03:27,430 --> 00:03:26,159 as you can see usually 4.25 a week they 84 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:27,440 crossed it out 85 00:03:33,350 --> 00:03:30,720 because that's not the case anymore 86 00:03:34,710 --> 00:03:33,360 so we have may 10 2022. 87 00:03:36,229 --> 00:03:34,720 it's been updated a couple times it 88 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:36,239 looks like we have a house subcommittee 89 00:03:39,190 --> 00:03:37,519 scheduled to hold 90 00:03:41,430 --> 00:03:39,200 uh next week the first open 91 00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:41,440 congressional hearing on you 92 00:03:47,589 --> 00:03:43,920 uh unidentified aerial vehicles in more 93 00:03:50,149 --> 00:03:47,599 than half a century interesting 94 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:50,159 uh hold on one second by the way oh it 95 00:03:54,070 --> 00:03:51,360 looks like 96 00:03:55,350 --> 00:03:54,080 i think we have a special guest 97 00:03:57,750 --> 00:03:55,360 um 98 00:04:00,149 --> 00:03:57,760 yeah i think i know who that is we we do 99 00:04:01,670 --> 00:04:00,159 have a special guest oh my gosh if it 100 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:01,680 isn't 101 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:03,120 what the heck 102 00:04:08,949 --> 00:04:06,720 what it flew in just flew in 103 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:08,959 all right much for coming man yeah you 104 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:10,720 surprised me i if i would have had to 105 00:04:14,470 --> 00:04:12,400 guess like 106 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:14,480 you know what's percentage of belief 107 00:04:17,509 --> 00:04:15,599 that you think he's going to show up 108 00:04:20,710 --> 00:04:17,519 today i would have said 109 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:20,720 20 freaking percent man i'm in his days 110 00:04:23,670 --> 00:04:22,560 in new york he's busy 111 00:04:26,150 --> 00:04:23,680 so thanks 112 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:26,160 all right i'll do my best i i'm a little 113 00:04:31,670 --> 00:04:28,720 under the gun here but um 114 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:31,680 anyway uh i will i will try 115 00:04:34,070 --> 00:04:32,639 um 116 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:34,080 anyway thanks 117 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:36,080 yeah i'll let you do the talking uh it 118 00:04:40,390 --> 00:04:37,440 looks like you were up late last night 119 00:04:42,469 --> 00:04:40,400 it got submitted at what 2 3 a.m uh the 120 00:04:44,629 --> 00:04:42,479 article so tell me about how that came 121 00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:44,639 to be well we've been working leslie and 122 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:46,000 i have been working on this for some 123 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:47,840 time we knew this hearing was coming up 124 00:04:52,870 --> 00:04:50,800 and frankly our concern was uh to keep 125 00:04:55,749 --> 00:04:52,880 it from being to keep us from being 126 00:04:57,909 --> 00:04:55,759 scooped um we knew about it but we 127 00:05:00,629 --> 00:04:57,919 thought that because so many other 128 00:05:02,629 --> 00:05:00,639 people in congress and the committee 129 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:02,639 um house intelligence committee and 130 00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:04,960 subcommittee knew about it that 131 00:05:09,350 --> 00:05:06,720 given the good sources that people have 132 00:05:10,550 --> 00:05:09,360 in washington that the r are exclusive 133 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:10,560 wouldn't last 134 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:13,440 but we were sure that um 135 00:05:17,350 --> 00:05:15,360 we could get the story and people you 136 00:05:20,870 --> 00:05:17,360 know cooperated with us and 137 00:05:21,670 --> 00:05:20,880 uh we we protect our sources and uh so 138 00:05:23,270 --> 00:05:21,680 um 139 00:05:25,029 --> 00:05:23,280 it all worked out it was 140 00:05:26,629 --> 00:05:25,039 unusual for a secret like this to be 141 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:26,639 kept in washington 142 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:29,120 because a lot of people have been um 143 00:05:32,070 --> 00:05:30,240 expecting 144 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:32,080 you know hearing like this of course 145 00:05:39,270 --> 00:05:34,720 it's the first one in you know 52 146 00:05:42,469 --> 00:05:39,280 54 years actually since 68 147 00:05:44,310 --> 00:05:42,479 so it's a long time coming but uh it 148 00:05:46,550 --> 00:05:44,320 could could be interesting it doesn't 149 00:05:48,150 --> 00:05:46,560 have to be interesting depending on 150 00:05:50,870 --> 00:05:48,160 you know the questions that are asked 151 00:05:53,110 --> 00:05:50,880 and how forthcoming the witnesses are 152 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:53,120 moultrie and bray and the others we 153 00:05:57,430 --> 00:05:56,000 don't know all of them but um it's it's 154 00:05:59,510 --> 00:05:57,440 a good start 155 00:06:01,749 --> 00:05:59,520 yeah yeah that's a fantastic start i 156 00:06:05,029 --> 00:06:01,759 mean especially how you just said 157 00:06:07,510 --> 00:06:05,039 you know not since 1968 i mean holy cow 158 00:06:09,510 --> 00:06:07,520 and you know i've been looking at those 159 00:06:11,990 --> 00:06:09,520 uh old records from blue book and man 160 00:06:14,230 --> 00:06:12,000 the air force was trying to dodge those 161 00:06:17,189 --> 00:06:14,240 you know hell in high water 162 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:17,199 yeah it's a sad history we you know we 163 00:06:19,830 --> 00:06:18,800 didn't have a lot of space to get into 164 00:06:22,950 --> 00:06:19,840 it but 165 00:06:25,430 --> 00:06:22,960 when gerald ford in um 166 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:25,440 66 demanded hearings i mean he wasn't 167 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:27,360 president yet 168 00:06:35,670 --> 00:06:28,160 he 169 00:06:38,790 --> 00:06:35,680 government was you know dissembling uh 170 00:06:42,550 --> 00:06:38,800 putting out disinformation lying frankly 171 00:06:44,150 --> 00:06:42,560 uh that was nothing to these accounts um 172 00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:44,160 protecting you know 173 00:06:48,309 --> 00:06:46,560 for whatever reason we can debate that 174 00:06:51,990 --> 00:06:48,319 uh keeping the truth from the american 175 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:52,000 people but um you know by then already 176 00:06:57,830 --> 00:06:54,240 so many people had seen these things 177 00:07:00,629 --> 00:06:57,840 uh that um and so many people who knew 178 00:07:02,550 --> 00:07:00,639 um you know aircraft i mean world war ii 179 00:07:05,189 --> 00:07:02,560 fighter pilots uh 180 00:07:05,990 --> 00:07:05,199 airline pilots people with um 181 00:07:06,790 --> 00:07:06,000 you know 182 00:07:10,150 --> 00:07:06,800 who 183 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:10,160 don't mistake the planet venus for for 184 00:07:13,909 --> 00:07:13,120 ufos or swamp gas um 185 00:07:16,950 --> 00:07:13,919 so 186 00:07:19,510 --> 00:07:16,960 you know even back then uh ford uh said 187 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:19,520 this is ridiculous but it's taken this 188 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:22,080 long really to get where we are today 189 00:07:26,390 --> 00:07:24,240 yeah yeah and you know i was just 190 00:07:27,430 --> 00:07:26,400 telling everybody i mean there's so many 191 00:07:29,029 --> 00:07:27,440 people 192 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:29,039 you know to thank you don't want to go 193 00:07:33,350 --> 00:07:31,120 too crazy because this seems like maybe 194 00:07:35,189 --> 00:07:33,360 it's the tip of an iceberg hopefully 195 00:07:37,589 --> 00:07:35,199 um you know but there's so many people 196 00:07:39,670 --> 00:07:37,599 that put in so much uh hard work and it 197 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:39,680 all really started at least you know in 198 00:07:42,790 --> 00:07:41,680 recent history with with your article 199 00:07:44,469 --> 00:07:42,800 with leslie 200 00:07:47,110 --> 00:07:44,479 you know not that long ago 201 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:47,120 which which really december 2017 202 00:07:50,629 --> 00:07:48,800 on one hand it seems like a long time 203 00:07:53,110 --> 00:07:50,639 ago on the other hand it's 204 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:53,120 you know it's five years but uh not 205 00:07:58,469 --> 00:07:55,919 quite but um yeah things are really 206 00:08:00,230 --> 00:07:58,479 turned around i mean um 207 00:08:01,749 --> 00:08:00,240 you know the 208 00:08:04,790 --> 00:08:01,759 report by the 209 00:08:06,150 --> 00:08:04,800 uap task force last june 210 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:06,160 a lot of people 211 00:08:12,790 --> 00:08:10,000 uh derided or derisive about that report 212 00:08:14,390 --> 00:08:12,800 nine pages didn't really get into detail 213 00:08:17,270 --> 00:08:14,400 said that it couldn't resolve the 214 00:08:19,430 --> 00:08:17,280 questions but um as i 215 00:08:21,589 --> 00:08:19,440 said before the one thing that really 216 00:08:23,029 --> 00:08:21,599 broke new ground is where they say 217 00:08:25,270 --> 00:08:23,039 um 218 00:08:28,150 --> 00:08:25,280 these these objects 219 00:08:30,230 --> 00:08:28,160 are physically real i mean uh you know 220 00:08:32,790 --> 00:08:30,240 they uh they're not imaginary they're 221 00:08:35,509 --> 00:08:32,800 not fly specs on the windshield they're 222 00:08:38,829 --> 00:08:35,519 not uh illusion delusions 223 00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:38,839 um and then you can you know start to 224 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:41,599 to uh speculate well if they're real 225 00:08:45,910 --> 00:08:44,000 what are they you know but that's that's 226 00:08:48,150 --> 00:08:45,920 the next step and and so far no one in 227 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:48,160 the government is going there but um 228 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:50,160 that's that's the next step what what 229 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:51,760 are they if they're real 230 00:08:56,230 --> 00:08:53,760 yeah very true that's that's like we're 231 00:08:58,630 --> 00:08:56,240 all kind of just hanging off the cliff 232 00:09:01,350 --> 00:08:58,640 there waiting for him to say okay it's 233 00:09:02,710 --> 00:09:01,360 not chinese or russian all right 234 00:09:04,230 --> 00:09:02,720 yeah well that's the thing you know you 235 00:09:05,750 --> 00:09:04,240 keep hearing that i mean i was looking 236 00:09:07,990 --> 00:09:05,760 at some of the questions 237 00:09:10,150 --> 00:09:08,000 uh once again the article has provoked 238 00:09:12,710 --> 00:09:10,160 tremendous reader reaction the 239 00:09:14,550 --> 00:09:12,720 the the navy video which we ran 240 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:14,560 originally with our story 241 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:17,200 um is now trending again it's the most 242 00:09:21,670 --> 00:09:19,680 watched thing on the times website which 243 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:21,680 is interesting five years later 244 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:24,240 um you know there's still tremendous 245 00:09:28,230 --> 00:09:26,800 interest in these videos at the end and 246 00:09:28,949 --> 00:09:28,240 you know we only got a little piece of 247 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:28,959 it 248 00:09:30,630 --> 00:09:29,760 right 249 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:30,640 um 250 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:34,000 and they're still very enigmatic but 251 00:09:36,949 --> 00:09:35,519 you know for the people who say these 252 00:09:39,269 --> 00:09:36,959 objects have never been you know 253 00:09:41,110 --> 00:09:39,279 photographed or they'd you know then 254 00:09:43,350 --> 00:09:41,120 they don't allow themselves to be 255 00:09:45,590 --> 00:09:43,360 depicted or whatever these 256 00:09:46,949 --> 00:09:45,600 pictures the navy has put out are real 257 00:09:50,470 --> 00:09:46,959 and um 258 00:09:54,150 --> 00:09:50,480 so uh so again um 259 00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:54,160 reader interest is is very is is intense 260 00:09:58,389 --> 00:09:56,160 and um and there's still people out 261 00:09:59,750 --> 00:09:58,399 there saying you know that 262 00:10:01,750 --> 00:09:59,760 they don't believe why is the government 263 00:10:04,150 --> 00:10:01,760 wasting time on this when they should be 264 00:10:05,590 --> 00:10:04,160 you know worrying about ukraine and 265 00:10:06,470 --> 00:10:05,600 poverty at home 266 00:10:08,389 --> 00:10:06,480 and 267 00:10:10,550 --> 00:10:08,399 what i keep answering when i comment in 268 00:10:12,710 --> 00:10:10,560 the comment mode is that science doesn't 269 00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:12,720 wait for all problems on earth 270 00:10:16,630 --> 00:10:14,880 to be resolved before they 271 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:16,640 start to look into things i mean these 272 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:17,360 are 273 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:20,240 fundamental questions about um 274 00:10:25,269 --> 00:10:22,240 you know existence 275 00:10:26,230 --> 00:10:25,279 um and science needs to pursue them and 276 00:10:28,870 --> 00:10:26,240 and 277 00:10:30,949 --> 00:10:28,880 nobody is nobody that i respect is 278 00:10:32,710 --> 00:10:30,959 arguing that science shouldn't take the 279 00:10:33,670 --> 00:10:32,720 lead of course it should 280 00:10:34,470 --> 00:10:33,680 um 281 00:10:37,269 --> 00:10:34,480 but 282 00:10:40,310 --> 00:10:37,279 you have to give the scientists the 283 00:10:42,389 --> 00:10:40,320 um the funding and the um 284 00:10:43,509 --> 00:10:42,399 authority to to pursue it and that's 285 00:10:45,269 --> 00:10:43,519 what 286 00:10:46,389 --> 00:10:45,279 little by little is happening in our 287 00:10:48,150 --> 00:10:46,399 country 288 00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:48,160 yeah and you know you can't help that 289 00:10:52,310 --> 00:10:50,880 it's long overdue either you know do you 290 00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:52,320 think people want to be dealing with 291 00:10:56,230 --> 00:10:53,920 this now while everything's going on the 292 00:10:58,230 --> 00:10:56,240 world no of course but we've waited so 293 00:11:00,310 --> 00:10:58,240 long and here we are you know 294 00:11:02,630 --> 00:11:00,320 yeah i think we've come a long way sean 295 00:11:05,430 --> 00:11:02,640 i mean and that's that's the good news 296 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:05,440 that um this uap report as skimpy as it 297 00:11:08,949 --> 00:11:06,880 was last year 298 00:11:11,750 --> 00:11:08,959 uh did um 299 00:11:14,630 --> 00:11:11,760 establish that out of you know 140 300 00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:14,640 cases only one could be explained it was 301 00:11:19,509 --> 00:11:16,480 a weather balloon and you know nobody's 302 00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:19,519 saying that all these sightings are 303 00:11:24,949 --> 00:11:22,480 uh you know are uap or ufos or 304 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:24,959 extraterrestrial or whatever 305 00:11:28,630 --> 00:11:27,120 nobody is saying that there's a lot of 306 00:11:30,630 --> 00:11:28,640 false 307 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:30,640 sightings there's the satellites up 308 00:11:34,949 --> 00:11:32,720 there there are reflections there are 309 00:11:36,230 --> 00:11:34,959 cloud formations all kinds of things 310 00:11:37,670 --> 00:11:36,240 aviation 311 00:11:40,710 --> 00:11:37,680 um but 312 00:11:44,150 --> 00:11:40,720 the navy said uh all but one could not 313 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:44,160 be explained um so this was a real big 314 00:11:47,190 --> 00:11:46,000 step in the right direction 315 00:11:48,949 --> 00:11:47,200 you know i don't want to take up too 316 00:11:51,590 --> 00:11:48,959 much your time but let me ask you what 317 00:11:53,590 --> 00:11:51,600 do you um have any expectations or what 318 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:53,600 do you foresee these hearings 319 00:11:58,629 --> 00:11:56,160 uh well you know it is interesting the 320 00:12:00,470 --> 00:11:58,639 possibilities are great because when you 321 00:12:02,949 --> 00:12:00,480 have these two officials moultrie and 322 00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:02,959 bray who are really top level i mean 323 00:12:08,069 --> 00:12:06,000 moultrie is the chief advisor to defense 324 00:12:10,629 --> 00:12:08,079 secretary austin 325 00:12:13,590 --> 00:12:10,639 and and bray also you know is naval 326 00:12:16,710 --> 00:12:13,600 intelligence uh or national intelligence 327 00:12:19,430 --> 00:12:16,720 um so i'm sure they 328 00:12:21,910 --> 00:12:19,440 uh are gonna be on their you know guard 329 00:12:23,750 --> 00:12:21,920 and not to reveal too much and they 330 00:12:25,829 --> 00:12:23,760 don't wanna jump ahead of the news and 331 00:12:27,990 --> 00:12:25,839 you know say things that they don't 332 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:28,000 haven't been confirmed so the pressure 333 00:12:32,870 --> 00:12:30,720 is going to be on them to to be 334 00:12:35,509 --> 00:12:32,880 conservative but you know there's a lot 335 00:12:37,670 --> 00:12:35,519 of smart members of congress and um i 336 00:12:40,470 --> 00:12:37,680 think if the committee does its 337 00:12:42,949 --> 00:12:40,480 subcommittee does its job and has is 338 00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:42,959 armed with the proper information 339 00:12:46,550 --> 00:12:44,480 they might get some really interesting 340 00:12:47,990 --> 00:12:46,560 answers and again for the first time the 341 00:12:49,750 --> 00:12:48,000 pentagon is 342 00:12:52,470 --> 00:12:49,760 showing a willingness 343 00:12:54,310 --> 00:12:52,480 uh to address these questions and um and 344 00:12:56,790 --> 00:12:54,320 that's a big step forward i mean it 345 00:12:59,829 --> 00:12:56,800 wasn't so long ago you know that 346 00:13:02,310 --> 00:12:59,839 they were um you know making up stories 347 00:13:03,430 --> 00:13:02,320 and and making fun of people who 348 00:13:05,350 --> 00:13:03,440 um 349 00:13:08,069 --> 00:13:05,360 you know who tried to research this and 350 00:13:10,629 --> 00:13:08,079 they were making up um 351 00:13:11,590 --> 00:13:10,639 false narratives uh 352 00:13:12,310 --> 00:13:11,600 um 353 00:13:14,389 --> 00:13:12,320 so 354 00:13:16,150 --> 00:13:14,399 again we got to think not only 355 00:13:18,230 --> 00:13:16,160 the great distance we still need to go 356 00:13:19,110 --> 00:13:18,240 but how far we've come 357 00:13:21,110 --> 00:13:19,120 yeah 358 00:13:23,509 --> 00:13:21,120 uh part of that uh the article you wrote 359 00:13:26,069 --> 00:13:23,519 was um where it mentions how the 360 00:13:28,310 --> 00:13:26,079 hearings will kind of go over um what 361 00:13:30,069 --> 00:13:28,320 they can do to reduce stigma to increase 362 00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:30,079 reporting well that's interesting right 363 00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:32,720 they actually addressed that uh and i 364 00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:35,360 mean uh carson andre carson the 365 00:13:39,829 --> 00:13:37,360 chairman of the subcommittee three c's 366 00:13:42,150 --> 00:13:39,839 you know counterintelligence uh forgot 367 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:42,160 the others but um yeah proliferation 368 00:13:47,189 --> 00:13:44,560 yeah yeah um 369 00:13:48,949 --> 00:13:47,199 uh he he kind of said it lightly that 370 00:13:51,590 --> 00:13:48,959 he's you know 371 00:13:53,430 --> 00:13:51,600 expecting some uh joking about it and we 372 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:53,440 got some of that when we wrote our first 373 00:13:55,990 --> 00:13:54,959 story you know and 374 00:13:58,150 --> 00:13:56,000 um 375 00:14:01,189 --> 00:13:58,160 leslie and helene cooper and i 376 00:14:02,949 --> 00:14:01,199 but um that comes with the territory you 377 00:14:04,949 --> 00:14:02,959 know when people are uncomfortable about 378 00:14:08,150 --> 00:14:04,959 something they joke about it 379 00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:08,160 and um it's it's a way of dealing with a 380 00:14:11,110 --> 00:14:09,120 very 381 00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:11,120 tricky subject 382 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:12,000 and 383 00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:15,120 york times 384 00:14:18,550 --> 00:14:17,199 and also in the book i wrote on john 385 00:14:19,509 --> 00:14:18,560 mack you know and 386 00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:19,519 um 387 00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:20,240 and 388 00:14:24,069 --> 00:14:21,760 you know his 389 00:14:26,389 --> 00:14:24,079 research into alien encounters 390 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:26,399 to stick with what's known and the facts 391 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:28,880 and to label clearly what's not known 392 00:14:32,550 --> 00:14:30,880 and what speculation but in the stories 393 00:14:34,629 --> 00:14:32,560 that we've done in the times and in this 394 00:14:36,790 --> 00:14:34,639 story about the hearings 395 00:14:39,110 --> 00:14:36,800 i haven't said anything about aliens and 396 00:14:41,110 --> 00:14:39,120 extraterrestrials because all that is 397 00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:41,120 just pure speculation we've just stuck 398 00:14:44,629 --> 00:14:42,000 to the 399 00:14:46,710 --> 00:14:44,639 the fact that um uh 400 00:14:48,310 --> 00:14:46,720 these objects are real where they come 401 00:14:50,629 --> 00:14:48,320 from we don't know who's behind the 402 00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:50,639 wheel if anybody or anything 403 00:14:54,389 --> 00:14:51,920 but um 404 00:14:55,350 --> 00:14:54,399 that's progress that we we now say these 405 00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:55,360 things 406 00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:56,160 have 407 00:14:58,470 --> 00:14:57,600 superpowers 408 00:15:00,470 --> 00:14:58,480 that 409 00:15:02,949 --> 00:15:00,480 stagger you know physicists and 410 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:02,959 scientists they accelerate on a dime 411 00:15:06,710 --> 00:15:04,880 they disappear they operate in the water 412 00:15:07,430 --> 00:15:06,720 apparently at times so 413 00:15:09,269 --> 00:15:07,440 yeah 414 00:15:10,470 --> 00:15:09,279 we've come a long way 415 00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:10,480 you know that's really well put 416 00:15:14,069 --> 00:15:12,560 superpowers 417 00:15:14,949 --> 00:15:14,079 that's really well but 418 00:15:19,590 --> 00:15:14,959 uh 419 00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:19,600 other day about um your initial piece 420 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:22,720 and i saw you doing a cable news show 421 00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:24,880 and you mentioned the the off-world 422 00:15:28,870 --> 00:15:26,160 vehicle piece do you ever see any 423 00:15:30,150 --> 00:15:28,880 headway being made on that stuff 424 00:15:31,910 --> 00:15:30,160 the uh 425 00:15:34,150 --> 00:15:31,920 no i mean 426 00:15:37,509 --> 00:15:34,160 the people who who know about that are 427 00:15:38,949 --> 00:15:37,519 talking uh it's protected by very high 428 00:15:41,829 --> 00:15:38,959 levels of 429 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:41,839 government confidentiality top secret 430 00:15:45,749 --> 00:15:43,920 um we don't know more than we were able 431 00:15:47,590 --> 00:15:45,759 to put in the paper which was a tiny bit 432 00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:47,600 it didn't satisfy a lot of people you 433 00:15:52,069 --> 00:15:48,959 know we got 434 00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:52,079 uh criticized then on the web for not 435 00:15:55,670 --> 00:15:53,680 telling more but we didn't know more 436 00:15:57,430 --> 00:15:55,680 that we could confirm all we knew was 437 00:16:00,150 --> 00:15:57,440 that um 438 00:16:01,829 --> 00:16:00,160 uh congressional committees were briefed 439 00:16:02,629 --> 00:16:01,839 yeah um 440 00:16:04,389 --> 00:16:02,639 by 441 00:16:05,430 --> 00:16:04,399 scientists who 442 00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:05,440 uh 443 00:16:09,749 --> 00:16:07,440 you know were putting out information 444 00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:09,759 said that um 445 00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:15,990 had recovered let's say some material 446 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:18,320 presumably from crashed vehicles and was 447 00:16:20,550 --> 00:16:19,440 testing it 448 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:20,560 um 449 00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:23,360 and uh you know where that material is 450 00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:25,360 who's doing that we no no we don't have 451 00:16:29,509 --> 00:16:26,720 any details 452 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:29,519 uh but we have been told by high-level 453 00:16:32,069 --> 00:16:31,040 people that the government is very 454 00:16:34,389 --> 00:16:32,079 interested 455 00:16:36,470 --> 00:16:34,399 in reverse engineering 456 00:16:38,629 --> 00:16:36,480 uh the capabilities of these objects 457 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:38,639 which they now agree are real 458 00:16:42,069 --> 00:16:40,240 uh and i mean who wouldn't want to 459 00:16:44,710 --> 00:16:42,079 reverse engineer these things i mean 460 00:16:47,189 --> 00:16:44,720 they can accelerate to unimaginable 461 00:16:49,189 --> 00:16:47,199 speeds they can drop down from you know 462 00:16:50,389 --> 00:16:49,199 60 000 feet to the 463 00:16:52,949 --> 00:16:50,399 um 464 00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:52,959 top you know the the waves of the ocean 465 00:16:57,990 --> 00:16:55,680 in in a moment and then perhaps go under 466 00:17:00,470 --> 00:16:58,000 the water 467 00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:00,480 and become invisible at times and 468 00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:02,320 there's no visible means of propulsion 469 00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:05,280 there's no wings or tail or you know or 470 00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:06,319 exhaust 471 00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:08,160 no signature 472 00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:09,439 sonic boom 473 00:17:12,549 --> 00:17:11,280 uh of course we'd like to duplicate that 474 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:12,559 so would the chinese so would the 475 00:17:16,949 --> 00:17:13,760 russians i don't think there's any 476 00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:16,959 argument about that um 477 00:17:20,949 --> 00:17:18,799 presumably that someone is doing this 478 00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:20,959 research but who's doing it how much do 479 00:17:28,069 --> 00:17:23,120 they have a whole craft you know 480 00:17:32,549 --> 00:17:29,669 i mean that's that's the thing really 481 00:17:34,390 --> 00:17:32,559 too uh you know we like you said china 482 00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:34,400 russia other countries would want to 483 00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:36,720 reverse engineer this as well and who's 484 00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:38,240 going to get there first really is the 485 00:17:40,870 --> 00:17:40,080 scary part i remember that's right and 486 00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:40,880 uh 487 00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:44,320 and 488 00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:46,160 but the idea that these that these 489 00:17:50,549 --> 00:17:48,640 objects are secretly russian or secretly 490 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:50,559 chinese is really 491 00:17:56,070 --> 00:17:53,520 uh has that has been uh authoritatively 492 00:17:58,150 --> 00:17:56,080 debunked in my view and uh sure they 493 00:18:00,070 --> 00:17:58,160 always trot that out as a possibility 494 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:00,080 you know when they're listing all in the 495 00:18:05,350 --> 00:18:03,200 uap report of june last june uh they 496 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:05,360 list that as a possibility i guess they 497 00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:06,720 have to if you're listing all the 498 00:18:11,510 --> 00:18:08,880 logical possibilities is it a weather 499 00:18:15,669 --> 00:18:11,520 balloon is it a natural atmospheric 500 00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:15,679 condition um is it our own technology is 501 00:18:19,750 --> 00:18:18,000 it chinese is it russian iranian i mean 502 00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:19,760 you name it 503 00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:22,240 they go through these uh possibilities 504 00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:24,480 because it's it's only logical but one 505 00:18:29,029 --> 00:18:26,400 by one they knock them down 506 00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:29,039 and um 507 00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:31,200 conclusively in my view 508 00:18:37,110 --> 00:18:34,640 um uh that the the 509 00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:37,120 capabilities that these things have 510 00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:39,360 have have been been seen to have 511 00:18:44,789 --> 00:18:42,000 just far outpace anything known on earth 512 00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:44,799 so that's what we're left with mystery 513 00:18:50,070 --> 00:18:47,760 especially going back you know the 1947 514 00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:50,080 and that's right 515 00:18:54,230 --> 00:18:52,400 exactly we're not talking about 516 00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:54,240 today there's you know obviously 517 00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:55,520 tremendous 518 00:18:59,750 --> 00:18:57,840 strides have been made in aerodynamics 519 00:19:01,270 --> 00:18:59,760 but we're talking about things that had 520 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:01,280 this capability 521 00:19:06,070 --> 00:19:05,120 at least back to 1947 at roswell and uh 522 00:19:08,310 --> 00:19:06,080 um 523 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:08,320 you know with the uh the first sighting 524 00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:09,520 ken arnold 525 00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:10,720 um 526 00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:11,440 so 527 00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:14,000 who had that capability then and you 528 00:19:17,430 --> 00:19:16,400 know today okay maybe but certainly not 529 00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:17,440 back then 530 00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:19,360 yeah most definitely and the more time 531 00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:21,919 goes on the harder it could be to make a 532 00:19:25,909 --> 00:19:23,760 clear distinction between you if we 533 00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:25,919 don't handle it soon yeah 534 00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:26,720 so 535 00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:28,080 um how much time do you have i don't 536 00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:29,039 want to 537 00:19:33,909 --> 00:19:31,440 i can stay say another a few minutes 538 00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:33,919 five minutes and then i gotta run but 539 00:19:37,909 --> 00:19:35,840 um well somebody actually had a question 540 00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:37,919 do you think uh amnesty should be 541 00:19:41,110 --> 00:19:39,520 afforded to officials who come forward 542 00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:41,120 during hearings 543 00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:43,120 well you know we're not at that point i 544 00:19:48,630 --> 00:19:46,640 mean certainly anybody who who breaks 545 00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:48,640 you know confident breaks an oath to 546 00:19:52,789 --> 00:19:50,000 protect uh 547 00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:52,799 top secret information is is criminally 548 00:19:55,909 --> 00:19:53,600 uh 549 00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:55,919 viable so i'm not suggesting anybody 550 00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:57,679 should do that and i don't think anybody 551 00:20:02,310 --> 00:19:59,520 should do that we're not in the business 552 00:20:03,510 --> 00:20:02,320 of uh you know breaking the law 553 00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:03,520 to put out 554 00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:06,559 confidential protected information 555 00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:08,000 so um 556 00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:10,080 i i don't think anybody who 557 00:20:14,870 --> 00:20:13,200 who violates his or her oath to protect 558 00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,880 national security information should 559 00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:16,799 escape you know 560 00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:18,080 um 561 00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:20,559 you know justice because 562 00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:22,000 we're dealing you know look this is a 563 00:20:25,750 --> 00:20:23,679 tough world and we as we know from 564 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:25,760 ukraine now we're dealing with some very 565 00:20:29,909 --> 00:20:26,880 serious 566 00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:29,919 um adversaries uh one in particular 567 00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:31,039 russia 568 00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:33,840 so um i think it would be folly to say 569 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:35,760 oh everybody should just reveal all the 570 00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:38,080 secret information you know we have 571 00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:39,039 um 572 00:20:42,310 --> 00:20:40,559 so 573 00:20:43,990 --> 00:20:42,320 and you don't know what the crime is 574 00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:44,000 right right and there's no yeah we don't 575 00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:45,600 know what the crime is and 576 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:46,640 um 577 00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:48,640 uh so i want to be clear i'm not 578 00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:51,440 suggesting anybody violate his or her 579 00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:53,919 oath and and reveal 580 00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:55,919 you know classify classified information 581 00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:58,400 which is a federal crime um but there's 582 00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:00,240 a lot of information short of that as we 583 00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:02,400 know because the 584 00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:04,320 atip which was the group we 585 00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:06,320 focused on in our first story december 586 00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:08,880 2017 advanced aerospace threat 587 00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:10,400 identification program that was not a 588 00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:12,720 classified program and there are other 589 00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:14,960 programs that are not classified and the 590 00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:17,039 navy videos that we put out in the new 591 00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:19,440 york times and that's now trending again 592 00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:21,120 all over again and that's not a 593 00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:23,440 classified video i mean that was 594 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:26,000 approved for release by uh louisando got 595 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:29,360 that cleared for release so when we so 596 00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:30,960 there's a lot of information that can be 597 00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:32,640 given to the american public without 598 00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,320 endangering national security that's 599 00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:36,000 been the problem all along that 600 00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:37,440 everything was sort of thrown together 601 00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,440 that and the american people can't know 602 00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:41,520 anything about this phenomenon 603 00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:44,400 everything has to be covered up and and 604 00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:46,240 that's wrong um 605 00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:48,400 the american people can be trusted with 606 00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:51,440 this information people around the world 607 00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:54,000 can be trusted it's our world it's you 608 00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:56,320 know we yes 609 00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:58,480 we need to have this information that 610 00:22:02,310 --> 00:21:59,679 that's that 611 00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:02,320 can and should be public so 612 00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:05,679 a lot of that it can be can be opened up 613 00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:07,440 well i want to thank you for taking time 614 00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:09,679 on your busy day to do this i have one 615 00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:10,960 more question for you and it's going to 616 00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:13,440 be super difficult so i hope 617 00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:14,960 that it's something you've pondered for 618 00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:17,200 a long time and if you had the 619 00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:19,840 opportunity to get in a tic tac and fly 620 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,430 i could be abducted 621 00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:30,710 well you know everybody would love to 622 00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:33,280 you know unravel this mystery and these 623 00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:36,000 these objects i mean dave fraber 624 00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:37,679 eyeballed one of them 625 00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:39,120 and um 626 00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:41,760 he said it was astounding uh he watched 627 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:43,440 it you know like turn you watch 628 00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:45,840 something churn under the water and this 629 00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:48,240 guy is a decorated fighter pilot you 630 00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:51,120 know he's no flake 631 00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:54,400 and he he he and other pilots we've 632 00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:55,600 talked to 633 00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:57,600 said actually what you just said that 634 00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:59,600 they would love to be piloting these 635 00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:01,200 things because that is really cutting 636 00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:03,039 edge 637 00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:04,159 and you know there's a lot of 638 00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:06,320 speculation well they're they're driven 639 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:08,559 by thoughts you know that 640 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:09,760 yeah 641 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:11,120 who knows 642 00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:14,080 yeah but um that's the next frontier 643 00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:15,840 well we're getting a lot of thanks here 644 00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:17,440 in in the chat room thanks for 645 00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:19,760 everything you've done thank you for um 646 00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:22,320 you know making this topic more out in 647 00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:23,760 the public sector bringing down the 648 00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:26,080 stigma writing that book um you know 649 00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:27,760 bringing john mack to light hopefully 650 00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:29,840 we'll get closer to that as well 651 00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:30,720 so 652 00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:34,559 sean thanks for having me on at short 653 00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:36,240 notice i really enjoyed it thanks for 654 00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:39,520 coming back short notice bye bye 655 00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:41,200 all right that was fantastic what a 656 00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:43,600 surprise fantastic everybody 657 00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:45,520 um 658 00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:48,320 so we got the the scoop on the 659 00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:49,440 um 660 00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:50,720 article that came out in the new york 661 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:53,120 times that is fantastic 662 00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:56,400 uh really really cool you know one of 663 00:24:00,070 --> 00:23:58,159 those days where you're just 664 00:24:01,590 --> 00:24:00,080 uh thankful to be doing what you're 665 00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:01,600 doing quite frankly 666 00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:02,720 you know 667 00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:05,360 um because that's not something i even 668 00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:06,799 expected so 669 00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:08,320 we'll see what happens i'm looking 670 00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:13,430 um he said some interesting things he's 671 00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:15,279 you know he said things like you don't 672 00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:16,840 you got to get 673 00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:19,520 your um you know depending on what 674 00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:20,960 questions and information you come to 675 00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:22,720 armed with to the hearings you could get 676 00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:25,200 some very interesting information so 677 00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:26,960 um 678 00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:29,039 let's hope that they do their homework i 679 00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:30,640 think they probably did or they wouldn't 680 00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:32,799 get this far with with public hearings 681 00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:34,480 so you know is it going to be the 682 00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:36,799 ultimate disclosure we want 683 00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:39,440 of course probably not 684 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:40,880 but 685 00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:43,840 everything has been a buildup 686 00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:46,080 you know one piece at a time one piece 687 00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,840 at a time and we keep getting closer and 688 00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:49,360 closer 689 00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:52,159 because really it's an unraveling right 690 00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:53,679 of a big ball 691 00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:54,640 of 692 00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:58,480 and you just gotta take it 693 00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,559 one piece at a time so 694 00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,480 i'm pretty thankful that uh it's 695 00:25:05,830 --> 00:25:04,799 happening to begin with 696 00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:05,840 and 697 00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:08,559 i'm excited yep disclosure teams in here 698 00:25:11,909 --> 00:25:10,320 what's up brother uh we're gonna be 699 00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:11,919 screaming it live 700 00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:13,760 um and giving our thoughts our play by 701 00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:16,159 play so that should be pretty cool 702 00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:18,400 so 703 00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:20,559 can't wait to do that 704 00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:22,320 um 705 00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:23,840 so the article 706 00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:26,480 i put in the uh description you can 707 00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:28,480 check it out for yourself in the 708 00:25:33,909 --> 00:25:32,240 meantime also if if you you know have a 709 00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:33,919 extra pretty penny or something go check 710 00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:36,320 out uh mr blumenthal's book i'm john 711 00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:39,440 mack believer it's great it's fantastic 712 00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:43,200 um john mack is a warrior he's a hero 713 00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:46,320 and uh i think 714 00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:47,600 i would 715 00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:49,120 venture to guess we'll be 716 00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:53,120 hearing a lot more about that person um 717 00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:54,559 in some weeks 718 00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:55,760 to come 719 00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:57,120 maybe 720 00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:58,720 you know a couple weeks to months to 721 00:26:01,750 --> 00:25:59,600 come 722 00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:01,760 i was a fantastic guy he did work in 723 00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:03,279 earnest 724 00:26:06,789 --> 00:26:05,520 honest hard-working 725 00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:06,799 harvard 726 00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:08,960 uh and and it wasn't easy for him if you 727 00:26:11,510 --> 00:26:10,720 want to talk about stigma 728 00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:11,520 just 729 00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:14,240 look up what john mack had to go through 730 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:16,480 just uh ridiculous 731 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:17,520 you know 732 00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,850 um 733 00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:19,200 [Music] 734 00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:20,240 but 735 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:21,840 he plugged away and he did it anyways 736 00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,200 and that's the kind of heroism that's 737 00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:25,520 the kind of 738 00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:27,279 person that we need 739 00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:29,600 right now is is someone to bring in that 740 00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:30,720 strength 741 00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:33,279 fortitude 742 00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:34,799 to get that stuff 743 00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,679 uh happening so i really really 744 00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:42,000 am appreciative of people like that lou 745 00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:43,760 elizando being one of them 746 00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:46,000 so 747 00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:52,549 i had um 748 00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:55,200 an interesting kind of document and 749 00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:01,350 um you know i'm going to take part in 750 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:03,520 these hearings and i was able to ask 751 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:06,480 questions 752 00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:09,120 this is something that i would 753 00:27:16,190 --> 00:27:14,470 so this report here 754 00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:16,200 is a 755 00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:17,840 [Music] 756 00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,480 berliner rockefeller briefing document 757 00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:22,080 it's very interesting 758 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:27,590 and there's a part of this document it's 759 00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:29,760 148 pages we're not going through it all 760 00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:31,200 so don't worry 761 00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:31,919 but 762 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:41,990 covers 763 00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:44,710 past statements 764 00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:48,480 from world government 765 00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:51,440 in military officials 766 00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:53,279 so what i want to do 767 00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:56,720 is go to page 92 here 768 00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:59,840 and we're going to check that out 769 00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:01,679 and we're going to look at all the 770 00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:06,389 uh statements and everything that people 771 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,510 in the past 772 00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:16,710 because some of them are pretty 773 00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,480 uh pretty great there's a lot of 774 00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:20,399 statements and there's some statements 775 00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:22,080 that i didn't even know about so you 776 00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:23,760 know you see those videos 777 00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:27,360 uh frequently on 778 00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:30,720 you know on different um 779 00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:32,799 youtube channels or twitter channels of 780 00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:34,960 the current people that uh make 781 00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:37,679 statements like andrew andre carson and 782 00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:38,880 all that so 783 00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:40,320 but look at these 784 00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:42,480 we're gonna go back general nathan uh 785 00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:45,279 twinning right twining whatever you want 786 00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:47,039 to say so 787 00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:48,559 we're familiar with those phenomena 788 00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:50,080 reported something real not visionary 789 00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:52,080 this is 1947 by the way 790 00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:54,240 uh objects probably approximating the 791 00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:55,840 shape of a disc of such appreciable 792 00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:58,320 sizes to piers largest man-made aircraft 793 00:29:01,909 --> 00:28:59,919 possibility that some of the instances 794 00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:01,919 may be caused by natural phenomena 795 00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:03,679 such as meteors uh the reported 796 00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:05,120 operating characteristics such as 797 00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:06,799 extreme rates of climate maneuverability 798 00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:09,200 particularly enroll an action must be 799 00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:11,120 considered pervasive when cited or 800 00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:13,360 contacted by friendly aircraft and radar 801 00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:15,039 lynn believed the possibility that some 802 00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:16,240 of the objects are controlled either 803 00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:18,720 manually automatically or remotely 804 00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:20,159 interesting hey 805 00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:22,640 this one i didn't know this one existed 806 00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:25,039 uh j edgar hoover in response to a 807 00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,840 government request to study ufos i would 808 00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:29,760 do it but before agreeing to it we must 809 00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:31,919 assist upon full access to disks 810 00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:35,520 recovered for instance in the la case 811 00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:37,840 the army grabbed it and would not let us 812 00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:40,399 have it for cursory examination 813 00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:42,080 it was a handwritten note to kleitels in 814 00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:44,480 july 15 1947. 815 00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:45,440 uh 816 00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:50,399 guy 817 00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:52,240 central intelligence agency has reviewed 818 00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:54,159 the current situation concerning ufos 819 00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:55,919 have created 820 00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:57,919 extensive speculation of the press and 821 00:30:01,909 --> 00:30:00,000 have been subject subject of concern of 822 00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:01,919 government organizations 823 00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:04,480 approximately twenty two thousand 824 00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:06,000 official reports of sightings have been 825 00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:08,159 received of these twenty percent are 826 00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:09,840 unexplained it is my view that the 827 00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:11,679 situation has possible implications for 828 00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:13,679 our national security which transcend 829 00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:15,600 the interest of a single service a 830 00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:17,440 broader coordinated effort should be 831 00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:19,840 initiated to develop a firm scientific 832 00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:21,440 understanding of the several phenomena 833 00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:22,720 which apparently 834 00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:24,880 are involved in these reports 835 00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:27,279 it's from a 52 memorandum to national 836 00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,799 security council 837 00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:30,240 douglas macarthur because of the 838 00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:31,360 developments of science all the 839 00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:33,440 countries on earth will have to unite to 840 00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:35,600 survive and to make a common front 841 00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:37,760 against attack by people from other 842 00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:40,159 planets the politics of the future will 843 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:42,960 be cosmic or interplanetary the new york 844 00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,600 times ah interesting hey october 8th 845 00:30:50,070 --> 00:30:47,760 1955 846 00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:50,080 you now face a new world world of change 847 00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:51,600 the thrust in the outer space of 848 00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:53,120 satellites fears and missiles marked the 849 00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:54,720 beginning of another epoch in the long 850 00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:57,039 story of mankind the chapter of space 851 00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:58,720 age we speak in strange terms of 852 00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:01,760 harnessing the cosmic energy 853 00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:04,000 um great stuff but i'm gonna pass out if 854 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:06,240 i keep reading like this so i'm gonna 855 00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:08,960 i'm gonna just skip here uh edward rupal 856 00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:11,279 we're all familiar with well if you know 857 00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:13,279 the history a bit captain edward rupal 858 00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,039 look him up there's 859 00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:17,360 uh a lot he has to say 860 00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:18,559 so 861 00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:21,440 um admiral roscoe helencotter unknown 862 00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:23,440 objects are operating under intelligent 863 00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:25,440 control it is imperative that we learn 864 00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:27,600 where ufos come from and what their 865 00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:29,279 purpose is 866 00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,919 apparently mj12 but we don't know that 867 00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:33,840 it is time for the truth to be brought 868 00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:36,640 out into the open congressional hearings 869 00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:38,399 behind the scenes high-ranking air force 870 00:31:42,789 --> 00:31:40,559 officers are soberly concerned about 871 00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:42,799 ufos but through official secrecy and 872 00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,799 ridicule many citizens are led to 873 00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:46,480 believe unknown flying objects or 874 00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:47,679 nonsense 875 00:31:51,350 --> 00:31:50,080 general curtis lemaya 876 00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:51,360 we had a number of reports from 877 00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:53,279 reputable individuals well educated 878 00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:54,960 serious-minded folks scientists and 879 00:32:01,750 --> 00:31:58,480 flyers who surely saw something 880 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:01,760 major general uh leveli 881 00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:03,840 many of the reports that cannot be 882 00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:05,440 explained have come from intelligent and 883 00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:07,279 technically well qualified individuals 884 00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:10,240 whose integrity cannot be doubted 885 00:32:13,909 --> 00:32:12,240 general george s brown i don't know 886 00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:13,919 whether this story has ever been told or 887 00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:14,799 not 888 00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:16,159 they weren't called ufos they were 889 00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:18,240 called enemy helicopters this is in 890 00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:19,679 regards to 891 00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:21,760 ufos over vietnam 892 00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:23,760 and they were only seen at night and 893 00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:25,360 they were only seen in certain places 894 00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:27,760 they were seen up around the dmz and 895 00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:29,760 demilitarized zone in the early summer 896 00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:33,120 of 68 this resulted in quite a little 897 00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:35,519 battle and in the course of this 898 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:37,200 australian destroyer took a hit and we 899 00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:39,760 never found any enemy we only found 900 00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:41,039 ourselves 901 00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:42,960 when this had all been sorted out and 902 00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:45,120 this caused some shooting there 903 00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:47,279 there was no enemy at all involved but 904 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:50,159 we always reacted always after dark same 905 00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:52,000 thing happened 906 00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:53,840 up at uh pleque 907 00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:56,480 at the highlands in 69 department of 908 00:33:01,509 --> 00:32:58,320 defense transcript of press conference 909 00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:01,519 illinois october 1673. 910 00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:02,880 lieutenant coyne 911 00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:04,559 with the aircraft under 912 00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:07,440 my control i observed red lighted object 913 00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:09,519 closing upon the helicopter at the same 914 00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:11,360 altitude at a high rate of speed it 915 00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:14,080 became apparent a mid-air collision was 916 00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:16,080 about to happen unless evasive action 917 00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:20,630 as a result of my experience i'm 918 00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:22,320 convinced this object was real and that 919 00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:24,240 these types of incidents should require 920 00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:30,470 uh victor marchetti former cia official 921 00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:32,399 we have indeed been contacted perhaps 922 00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:34,320 even visited by extraterrestrial beings 923 00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:35,840 in the us government in collusion with 924 00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:37,679 other national powers of the earth is 925 00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:39,200 determined to keep this information from 926 00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:47,509 united states harry truman president 927 00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:49,120 i can assure you that flying saucers 928 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:50,720 given they exist are not constructed by 929 00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:52,960 any power on earth 930 00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:57,430 no doubt you have noted the recent 931 00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:59,600 flurry of newspaper stories about ufos 932 00:34:02,470 --> 00:34:01,039 i've taken special interest in these 933 00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:02,480 accounts because many of the latest 934 00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:04,399 reported sightings have been in my home 935 00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,880 state of michigan because i think there 936 00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:08,720 may be substance some of these reports 937 00:34:11,430 --> 00:34:10,159 because i believe the american people 938 00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:11,440 are entitled to a more thorough 939 00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:14,480 explanation than has been given 940 00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:16,240 to them by the air force to date i'm 941 00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,839 proposing that either the science and 942 00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:19,919 astronautics committee or the armed 943 00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:22,320 services committee of the house schedule 944 00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:24,639 hearings on the subject of ufos and 945 00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:26,320 invite testimony for both the executive 946 00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:28,000 branch of the government and some of the 947 00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:29,919 persons who claim to have seen ufos 948 00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:32,159 jimmy carter president if i become 949 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:33,520 president i'll make every piece of 950 00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:36,000 information this country has about ufo 951 00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:37,919 sightings available to the public and 952 00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:39,679 the scientists i'm convinced that ufos 953 00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:45,109 president ronald reagan when he stopped 954 00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:47,200 to think we're all god's children 955 00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:49,599 wherever we may live in the world i 956 00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:51,919 couldn't help but say to him just think 957 00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:54,720 how easy his task and mine might be in 958 00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:57,280 these meetings that we held if suddenly 959 00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:59,440 there was a threat to this world from 960 00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:01,520 some other species from another planet 961 00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:04,720 outside in the universe we all forget 962 00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:07,359 about all the little local differences 963 00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:09,440 that we all have between our countries 964 00:35:13,829 --> 00:35:11,680 and we would find out once and for all 965 00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:13,839 that we really are human beings here on 966 00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:19,510 and we have more representative 967 00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:22,160 mccormick representative pettis senator 968 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,550 representative stephen schiff 969 00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:33,030 and then we start going to 970 00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:35,599 other countries who also have had their 971 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:41,430 canada 972 00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:44,320 england 973 00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:46,240 france 974 00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:47,680 uh and i can make this document 975 00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:49,599 available to you if anyone's interested 976 00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:51,119 hungary 977 00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:52,320 indonesia 978 00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:54,480 japan 979 00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,320 spain 980 00:36:02,310 --> 00:35:58,560 russia 981 00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:04,150 and then we get to astronaut scientists 982 00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:06,640 and the like 983 00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:13,990 that was a lot of reading so i hope you 984 00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:14,350 um 985 00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:15,680 [Music] 986 00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:17,440 you know took notice of those because 987 00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:18,960 really it's just been happening for so 988 00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:21,599 long and it's long overdue that we 989 00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:24,160 um get this a little bit out into the 990 00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,640 public and start you know so to speak 991 00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:28,079 heating so to speak these statements 992 00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:30,960 that have been made for so long by so 993 00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:33,359 many reputable people 994 00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:35,440 it's incredible 995 00:36:40,710 --> 00:36:38,800 um i'm going to upload that doc to 996 00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:40,720 uh google drive 997 00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:43,440 and i will share it with you in the chat 998 00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:44,720 here 999 00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:50,320 about it so i'll do that 1000 00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:53,440 so you can check it out because i think 1001 00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:55,839 that you should 1002 00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:58,800 be aware of that stuff 1003 00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:04,230 we'll take 1004 00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:06,400 a little 1005 00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:08,960 course change and we'll do something fun 1006 00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:10,480 that we call what the heck is that where 1007 00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,560 we watch weird videos 1008 00:37:16,190 --> 00:37:14,160 and think to ourselves 1009 00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:16,200 what the heck is that 1010 00:39:53,030 --> 00:37:33,310 here we go 1011 00:39:53,040 --> 00:40:08,829 what the [\h__\h] is 1012 00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:11,190 yeah it's like and it's like spinning 1013 00:40:28,140 --> 00:40:18,430 um 1014 00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:39,180 [Music] 1015 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:51,030 it's not moving at all 1016 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:01,970 [Music] 1017 00:41:20,580 --> 00:41:03,610 [Applause] 1018 00:41:20,590 --> 00:42:10,790 [Music] 1019 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:20,309 what the [\h__\h] is that 1020 00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:22,069 there it is 1021 00:43:01,750 --> 00:42:47,190 there's another one 1022 00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:03,190 i want to thank 1023 00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:04,720 all the hoosiers 1024 00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:05,920 and folks around the country in the 1025 00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:07,599 world quite frankly who have supported 1026 00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:08,720 our efforts 1027 00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:12,079 and my efforts to get answers on uaps 1028 00:43:16,150 --> 00:43:13,839 which effectively are unidentified 1029 00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:16,160 aerial phenomenon or they're properly 1030 00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:18,000 known as ufos 1031 00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:19,119 i think 1032 00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:24,309 is is 1033 00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:27,119 something that has been 1034 00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:29,599 placed in the science fiction category 1035 00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:31,200 um however 1036 00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,079 the occurrence of uaps near our military 1037 00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:36,480 bases has been documented and posed as a 1038 00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:38,560 national security threat especially 1039 00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:41,200 since so much about them is is virtually 1040 00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:42,319 unknown 1041 00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:44,400 they could be a form of technology that 1042 00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:45,599 we don't have 1043 00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:47,119 or from 1044 00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:48,480 another place 1045 00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:51,119 which is concerning and yes 1046 00:43:55,740 --> 00:43:52,960 it might even be extraterrestrial life 1047 00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:55,750 forms the problem is 1048 00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:56,880 [Music] 1049 00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,240 people want to know 1050 00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,560 and they want answers you know last year 1051 00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:02,400 i conducted a close hearing on this 1052 00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:03,200 issue 1053 00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,880 on the house intelligence committee 1054 00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:06,400 where i serve as the chairman of the 1055 00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:08,640 counterterrorism subcommittee and i'd 1056 00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:11,200 like to have a public hearing this year 1057 00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:14,000 so we can have a a larger discussion 1058 00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:14,960 about this 1059 00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:16,640 without compromising our national 1060 00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:19,359 security concerns 1061 00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,359 yes i wanted to play that clip i saw 1062 00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:23,760 that clip today um pretty cool 1063 00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:26,079 andre carson's been 1064 00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:32,550 um these uh hearings for a while so it's 1065 00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:34,800 pretty you know 1066 00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:36,160 as compared to something like steve 1067 00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:39,040 bassett maybe not that long but you know 1068 00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:40,400 you know what i mean it's not easy to 1069 00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:41,920 put your name out there 1070 00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:43,200 and um 1071 00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:45,440 be pushing for this stuff and and he's 1072 00:44:48,829 --> 00:44:47,359 doing it and i really do appreciate that 1073 00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:48,839 he is doing it 1074 00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:50,560 um 1075 00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:52,319 you know and people were talking before 1076 00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,760 like is is this the right time 1077 00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:55,119 especially with ukraine and all that 1078 00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:57,040 different kind of stuff happening is 1079 00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:59,040 this right time well 1080 00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:01,200 the one thing i would say is if this is 1081 00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:03,599 a different uh human entity or a 1082 00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:04,800 different 1083 00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:08,319 uh intelligent life form or or whatever 1084 00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:09,760 like 1085 00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:12,400 now is the time right 1086 00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:13,359 um 1087 00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:15,280 we have some crazy scary stuff going on 1088 00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:17,040 right now and 1089 00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:18,960 maybe it is something that would bring 1090 00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:22,240 us together maybe not but maybe it would 1091 00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:23,760 um 1092 00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:25,280 and 1093 00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,839 you know we all deserve to know if 1094 00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:29,520 something that important 1095 00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:33,760 um exists most definitely and i think 1096 00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:34,960 that's the 1097 00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:36,640 news and the kind of effort this world 1098 00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,880 could use right now that doesn't mean 1099 00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:40,560 take your focus away from important 1100 00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,480 things either you know it doesn't mean 1101 00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:44,480 you have to just do one and not the 1102 00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:46,960 other you know there's a lot of people 1103 00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:49,200 uh that do a lot of different things 1104 00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:50,800 um in the government certainly my hair 1105 00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:53,280 is just doing crazy stuff today 1106 00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:55,599 but uh we can you know focus on a lot of 1107 00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,359 different points you know 1108 00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:59,599 um saw a couple comments here taper your 1109 00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:01,280 expectations well first of all i would 1110 00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:03,680 say you're a grown ass person you can do 1111 00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:05,200 what you want if you want to get too 1112 00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:07,040 excited get too excited if you don't 1113 00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:07,839 don't 1114 00:46:12,829 --> 00:46:09,920 but yeah i mean in the end if you ask my 1115 00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:12,839 opinion i think that 1116 00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:17,119 um you know um trying to be as 1117 00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:19,280 level-headed as i can be in this topic 1118 00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:20,800 that we're in i would say it's a great 1119 00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:22,000 first step 1120 00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,160 right um you never know uh what could 1121 00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:26,400 happen with those hearings 1122 00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,640 but at the very least let's say worst 1123 00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:30,000 case scenario people are gonna be 1124 00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:31,280 unnoticed that they're not afraid to 1125 00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:32,640 call hearings 1126 00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,319 you know so 1127 00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:36,480 at the very least um that's a great 1128 00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,920 message to send 1129 00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:39,599 at the very best who knows sky's the 1130 00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:40,640 limit 1131 00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:43,520 um i think there's a lot um we don't 1132 00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:47,359 know how it's gonna turn out but 1133 00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:48,960 uh hopefully 1134 00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:51,359 um you know whatever happens 1135 00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:55,599 it moves the ball a little forward right 1136 00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:57,599 and that's all 1137 00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:59,359 we can hope for 1138 00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:00,400 right 1139 00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:02,880 and to keep this momentum going i don't 1140 00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:04,319 care i'm still doing a happiness you 1141 00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:06,160 should do a happy dance 1142 00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,119 you know we we should be excited about 1143 00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:11,760 this you know but that also doesn't mean 1144 00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,359 that we have to 1145 00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:15,359 you know think that it's going to be the 1146 00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:17,599 end all the secrecy either you know we 1147 00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:20,480 can celebrate little victories you know 1148 00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:23,040 and still stay relative with 1149 00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:24,480 with um 1150 00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:26,160 what the what the 1151 00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:28,160 you know what it'll actually turn out to 1152 00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:30,079 be right so 1153 00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:31,680 um if you don't celebrate those small 1154 00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:33,200 victories if you don't find a little 1155 00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:35,200 place to be happy and smile sometimes in 1156 00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:37,040 this it's going to eat you up and spit 1157 00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:38,240 you out so you got to be able to 1158 00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:40,079 celebrate those victories 1159 00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:41,280 um 1160 00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:43,200 because you know especially for people 1161 00:47:46,549 --> 00:47:44,319 who have been following this stuff 1162 00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:46,559 who've had experiences who speak about 1163 00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:48,880 it who come out about it like you need 1164 00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:49,760 those 1165 00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,559 you know it helps you continue and push 1166 00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:54,720 on forward especially when the times get 1167 00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,720 tough you know as they do 1168 00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:58,640 and ufo twitter starts to eats itself 1169 00:48:02,470 --> 00:48:00,880 from from the inside out 1170 00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:02,480 one thing i'd like to say is we have a 1171 00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:04,559 birthday in the house 1172 00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:07,040 i've been looking at those comments 1173 00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:09,440 jose 1174 00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:12,960 jos it is his birthday today 1175 00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:14,640 and 1176 00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:16,960 i just wanted to say 1177 00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:20,079 thank you because he is always here 1178 00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:23,520 he always is is kind in the chat 1179 00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:26,240 uh always so supportive 1180 00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:27,520 um 1181 00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:29,520 you know it's it's a benefit to my show 1182 00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:31,119 and every other show that he takes part 1183 00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:33,599 of and it's his birthday today so i did 1184 00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:34,960 want to 1185 00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:37,200 um you know take a second to say happy 1186 00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:40,000 birthday to him and thank you for for 1187 00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:41,520 coming to these shows and being the 1188 00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:43,119 great person you are 1189 00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,800 in the chat and 1190 00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:46,800 being so positive and 1191 00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:47,680 um 1192 00:48:49,829 --> 00:48:48,559 you know 1193 00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:49,839 we all should be grateful for your 1194 00:48:53,109 --> 00:48:51,839 presence in this community and i know i 1195 00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:53,119 am for sure 1196 00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:53,920 so 1197 00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:57,760 happy birthday to you sir 1198 00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:00,480 hopefully one day we will get to meet 1199 00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:03,520 um maybe i'll fly spaceship over to you 1200 00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:05,200 or vice versa 1201 00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:07,359 never know 1202 00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:13,430 yeah joe says multiple screens playing 1203 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:16,800 always he's the real mvp 1204 00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:19,200 yeah you are the real mvp we love you 1205 00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:21,440 here joe so thank you so much happy 1206 00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:22,960 birthday 1207 00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,480 to you 1208 00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:26,400 sorry that was probably out of key i 1209 00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:29,440 need an instrument to stay in tune but 1210 00:49:34,870 --> 00:49:32,319 can't say i've never sung happy birthday 1211 00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:34,880 to people in my chat 1212 00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:36,720 so with that being said i'm going to get 1213 00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,240 out of here and enjoy some of the nice 1214 00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:40,720 weather out by me sitting at 80 degrees 1215 00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:42,400 today which typically is a little too 1216 00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:44,480 hot for me to be quite frank 1217 00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:48,160 but i'm going to figure it out so 1218 00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:49,839 thanks for hanging out being so kind 1219 00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,359 what an awesome show thanks to ralph 1220 00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:53,760 blumenthal for coming and surprising us 1221 00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:55,599 and coming on the show i do appreciate 1222 00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:57,520 it it's a great day it's a beautiful day 1223 00:50:01,990 --> 00:50:00,160 take this day to be happy um 1224 00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:02,000 you know all the all the trash and all 1225 00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:04,480 the drama twitter just ignore it focus 1226 00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:05,680 on this stuff 1227 00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:07,920 um everything else is just a side show 1228 00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:09,920 it's a distraction it's entertainment 1229 00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:12,480 we're focused on real stuff 1230 00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,040 um real stuff um 1231 00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:18,000 happening you know congress hearings 1232 00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:21,040 um all that uh we're doing the good work 1233 00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:22,640 here so 1234 00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:25,280 thanks again for everything and i will 1235 00:50:32,300 --> 00:50:27,200 check y'all later